19:36
Tevin Carregher
So will we be able to withdraw?
19:36
Ria Kasselman
Please no offense....
I think this is a very unfair question to ask due to the circumstances.... Cheri as you can hear is devastated by all that has and is happening... I think we must all calm down and let things settle.... We will get answers in due time.... Give the IT people time to do what they do.... sorting out the system as quickly as possible.... Pray for Johann... his wife and family.... and the top team for calm and healthy decisions..... ๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค
19:37
Cheri Marks
I don't know what else to say๐
19:37
Kevin JG
Cheri. Firstly thank you for fielding concerned questions here on this group. I think the main thing that people would like to know is.... Is their Bitcoin safe? Things happen and MTI has always come across as a company with Integrity and Transparency. We are all shocked at the news but surely someone in the leadership team and Directors should be able to let members know if at the very least is their Bitcoin safe? Will MTI be able to pull through this? Again thanks for your input.๐
19:37
Royal ยฎ๏ธ
โค๏ธโค๏ธ
19:38
Tevin Carregher
We understand but some of us really didn't expect this.
But we need to know
19:38
Lisa Loveyourselfwealthy โค๏ธ
Cheri
Thank you for having a presence on this group now
When we all need clarity more than ever
Thank you for being here for us
19:38
Niel Kasselman
People people people please do not ask more questions and thus starting assumptions and rumors. Make you self a cuppa and relax. The management team is there to do their due diligence and all the questions and harasments are not making it easier for the management team. Please give them time to sort things out and wait for further notifications and news as and when it becomes available. Poor Cheri has to answer the same questions over and over again. Please be patient. Thank you.
19:38
Jason Radley
Cheri Thanks for your patience. Keep on keeping on
19:39
Royal ยฎ๏ธ
Exactly. Guys let's do our best to calm down.
19:39
Cheri Marks
When we get access we'll communicate that
19:40
Niel Kasselman
Rather spend more time praying for Johan and his family and MTI management team.
19:41
Riaan Greyling
Was trading done yesterday ?
19:41
Cheri Marks
Yes trading done everyday
19:42
Gareth Ellis
Thanks for doing your best. Please keep us all in the loop as communication at this point is of the utmost importance. I am sure Johan will turn up and that our BTC is safe.
19:42
Bhupendra Singh
๐๐๐๐๐
19:42
Riaan Greyling
Results not in yet ?
19:42
Cheri Marks
18th still not loaded
19:43
Jay
Cheri, we appreciate you, we express our empathy and I for one have your back 1000%. Thank you for being here, for keeping us informed, we appreciate it more than you'll ever know... ๐ค๐ค๐ค
19:43
Craig Prentice
Thank you Cheri. Your assistant is appreciated.
19:43
Cheri Marks
That's the assumption yes. But I cannot say something without being 100% sure
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19:45
Zy
Withdrawal still working tomorrow
Cheri
19:46
Michael Smit
Everyone is talking about withdrawals. Can someone tell me what is happening with the deposits that went missing with the upgrade. It is 2 weeks and as of yet no one has told us when that will be sorted
19:46
Pato Crypto Novatos
She has jsut said that only in case they can access the broker
19:47
Dim
They don't have access to the brok
19:47
Teresa Thomas
My 700 investors will be advised on Monday direction.
19:47
Anneska Van Der Spoel
So the site is still down? I still get Could not establish connection. Did the binary run still run today? Sorry if the question was already answered.
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19:55
Jay
Beside being concerned for the well being of Johann, as he's an outstanding and impecable human being, and until proven otherwise, my faith and trust lies 100% in the MTI corperate team, and that all will work out as it should ..
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20:00
Isak van de Venter
He is just been sarcastic ๐
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20:04
Karin Kemm
Who is Steven?
20:05
Jacques Joubert
Baie baie BTC
20:06
Karin Kemm
Can the deleted messages please be posted again
20:06
MorneSA
Hey... there is an entire corporate structure and Johann is not the only shareholder or director.... this to me raises a massive amount of questions surrounding the structuring of the corporate frameworks and the contingency and fall-over plans, of which a company holding 22 000+ worth in BTC should have very powerful measures in place. Are you able to share any of the specifics around how to access member BTC and how long the process will take to put the contingency processes into full working... this should all be contained in the โdisappearanceโ mail from Johann.... the specifics shared thus far does not add up and the timing and build up of what transpired over the last 2 weeks raises more questions than answer
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20:09
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ุฌุชุจู ุงูุฎุงูุฏู (ุงุจู ุชู
ุงู
)
its right to every one to declare whats thinking
20:09
White lover ๐ช
Unfortunately, Al-Karoub officials
20:10
ู
ุฌุชุจู ุงูุฎุงูุฏู (ุงุจู ุชู
ุงู
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๐๐๐Al karoub
20:10
White lover ๐ช
Well done
20:10
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ุฌุชุจู ุงูุฎุงูุฏู (ุงุจู ุชู
ุงู
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yup
20:10
Crypto Mark
Why is the MR Steven message being deleted? There's nothing to hide here guys let everyone have access to all the info so that everyone is being carried along. When panic like this arise so many will start calling authorities and I can bet you that everything will be gone. Why because it will raise a big alarm and this will lead to the shorting down of the website completely and when that is done, no more
20:11
Johan Coetzer
For those of us who made a request to withdraw, will we still recieve it in the week?
20:11
White lover ๐ช
๐๐ค
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20:12
Crypto Mark
I don't think so. Even in the next 2 weeks you'll not receive it.
20:12
Please watch this video
20:12
Crypto Mark
There's so many deep things you guys need to know
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20:13
Crypto Mark
Make your indept research. A whole lot of things is playing not just on MTI alone
20:13
On other platforms over the past 3 months
20:14
Crypto Mark
Be wise if you have btc investment on any other platform and start requesting for withdrawals out
20:14
Crypto Mark
Leave your btc in your btc wallet.
20:14
White lover ๐ช
What is the content of the video in short
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20:15
Stephen
What are you saying? It's in MTI's wallet not ours
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20:15
Crypto Mark
When I mean wallet I mean Luno, Varl etc
20:16
Stephen
Still doesn't make sense it's no in MTI's wallet and no one has control
20:16
sarah paulus
I have so many things I want to say๐๐๐
20:16
Michael Smit
Why? And why all platforms?
20:16
Crypto Mark
I mean when ever it's possible to withdraw your btc out from MTI or other platform's
20:17
Pato Crypto Novatos
Why you keep sending that video?
20:17
sarah paulus
Some US get you
20:18
Stephen
It's a very very very old video anyway!
20:18
Bhupendra Singh
Pato company CEO is before 22 hours is here join zoom meeting
20:18
Stephen
That zoom is soo old
20:18
Crypto Mark
Totally I've lost over $65,000 dollars in the past 3 months on different platforms. So guys there's something wrong somewhere
20:18
Stephen
Yup like Feb marxh old
20:18
Bhupendra Singh
Ok ok sorry
20:18
Stephen
It's your choice of platform's, any crypto platform is high risk... Whether you want to believe it or not
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20:21
Dim
It seems that we can do nothing but to wait
20:22
Ria Kasselman
Amen to that
20:22
Crypto Mark
From now till the next 12 months personally with my in depth research, you don't need any company to grow your btc again because with the big guys coming into play in the btc world such as Paypal etc leaving stocking your btc in your wallet without involving in any trading company or platform is the best method. That's just my strategy from all this things happening this days on btc investment.
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20:23
Anita Nortje
This means nothing if we have lost our BTC.
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20:23
Kobus Rossouw
Cherie Marx (Ward) Cheri - can we receive confirmation please of how the withdrawal process for this weekend is going at present . Has there been payouts since yesterday as per the various leaders groups especially on the ones that are like 2 weeks old . Tx
20:24
Michael Smit
Why is no one answering my question regarding the deposits that disappeared?
20:24
Matthys Viljoen
Has anyone received any payouts this week?
20:24
Jacques Joubert
Can you lockin
20:25
Jacques Joubert
What is happening with withdrawal
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20:26
Johan Coetzer
No i was sayin yes to login
20:26
Kobus Rossouw
Cherie Marx (Ward) - is the process on track as envisaged for the withdrawal to be caught up after the weeked as communicated on the various channels ?
20:26
Jacques Joubert
Lol my mistake
20:26
Matthys Viljoen
I just logged in to my mti acc all looks fine,but the question is will we be able to withdraw?
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20:27
Johan Coetzer
Lets be patient, hopefully it will pay out fingers crossed๐ค
20:28
Jurgens Hayes
MTI keeps ref to a board of directors. A quick CIPC search only shows Johan as the sole director?
20:28
Matthys Viljoen
A job for Mike Bolhuis
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20:31
Crypto Mark
This is just an advice, it's just an advice of wisdom I'm not trying to say anything bad but just to advice in case of anything goes wrong. Log in to your MTI account and take a screen short or your btc balance in your trading pool, also take screenshots of your profile in case in future if everything gets bad and you want to try recover your btc through a CHARGE BACK FIRM.
20:31
Zy
we donโt take our withdrawal or what
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20:31
Anita Nortje
Why does Cheri keep talking about Johan in the past tense??? Something strange happening here!!
20:32
Stephen
You are implying something very very bad...
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20:32
Johan Bitcoin Booster
Wie is Steven?
20:32
Anita Nortje
She just dissapeared, where is she now? Didn't even say goodbye
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20:33
Stephen
They referring to Steven Twain
20:34
Fleur dโAnge
Cheri Marks 19.12.2020 19:38:03
Dear Members
The last two weeks have been very difficult, and the pressure is not lessening.
Johann Steynberg our CEO left South Africa on the 3rd of December for business. There was regular contact throughout the days with Johann providing us with updates and information.
On Monday 14th of December Johann had been processing withdrawals trying to clear the backlog. Nerina (Johann's wife) then received a communication to say he was going for some dinner & would later continue with the withdrawals. (He had processed over 3000 withdrawals prior to this message to Nerina)
Approximately 13 hours later Clynton Marks and Nerina (Johannโs wife) received an automated emergency email to say that Johann had not logged into the MTI system for 12 hours. This security protocol email provided critical info for the team to start the process of working without Johann. (Up till that point Johann was the only one with authority to deal with the broker & technical team).
Up till today we have not heard from Johann again. We are extremely worried and a missing persons case has been filed.
Since that mail was received the management team have been following protocols as laid out in the email, this includes working with the technical and broker teams.
As it stands today the technical team is back on track and actively assisting us. We have provided the requested documents to the broker to establish our ownership of the account at this stage. This is a lengthy process. Unfortunately, being a weekend, we cannot expect further communication from the broker until Monday.
During this difficult transition, we appreciate the understanding of the majority of MTIโs loyal members. We ask that there is no speculation or rumours spread, and we will share the facts as we get them.
Kind regards
MTI Management
20:35
Jacques Joubert
Where is the trading results for yesterday
20:35
Crypto Mark
Ok if you say so. Thank you. It was just an advice for dose who understand what the advice means.
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20:38
Carlos A Pรฉrez Haeussler
Cheri do you have access to the traders ?
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20:43
Dr no......
So are we fuckt and never see our bitcoins again ore what
20:45
Anita Nortje
How can they not find the broker and Johan is missing. Bulshit!! In many meetings he said if something happens to him everything is fine.
20:48
Rudzi
Very true i mean management should have some access everything canโt stop just coz the owner is missing, and clynton is also a shareholder ๐๐ณ
20:48
MorneSA
Agreed. Corporate team has to have structures and processes I. Place. This company did not have 100 BTC staked in there
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20:50
Jessica
Did anyone read that message where they said they have sent the nesseaary paperowrk to the trading and tech team? Just saying. Maybe stressi g rught now is the wrong thi g tk be doing. They are working with the guys to gain access and get back to business as usual.
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20:53
Jessica
We all have many questions.... I think management team do as well in all fairness. Give them the space to breathe and get their ducks in a row. Going back and forth here does no good. Let us wait while their gain the necessary accesses so that we can aall move forward.
20:54
Michael Smit
Agreed, but by keeping quiet and deleting messages Management isnโt doing themselves any favours
20:55
Stephen
Agreed. Just noticed Monica removed all traces of MTI from Facebook?? What is going on?
20:55
Mark
Next will be YouTube
20:56
Dr no......
Why removing
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20:56
Dr no......
For what
20:58
Anita Nortje
Peter Muller 19.12.2020 20:50:27
IF YOU SEE THIS MESSAGE ITS NOT FROM MYSELF AND TOTALLY INACCURATE
SOME PEOPLE HAVE ZERO SCRUPLES
โผ๏ธโผ๏ธโผ๏ธUpdateโผ๏ธโผ๏ธโผ๏ธ
Hi Team, I have been on the phone to Pete and just want to give you an update regarding everything:
FSCA: It is confirmed that NO case has been opened against MTI. This is another scare tactic as they are wanting people to withdraw their Bitcoin and put it back into the banking system. R7Billion is a lot of money that is "out of the system". Please remember that Bitcoin/MTI is fully decentralized and deregulated which means that no bank or government can touch it. MTI lawyers are working on it!
WITHDRAWALS: MTI are integrating the new software tonight that can do 2500 withdrawals per hour. So they are still on track with sorting all the outstanding withdrawals out.
JOHANN: There is still a managment team running MTI and keeping everything functioning. We just need to hope and pray that everything is ok with Johann. In the interim everything is running as per normal.
What we need to keep in mind is that MTI only had 10 000 members in January this year. They now have just over 270 000 members. MTI hit an exponential growth curve much bigger than they ever anticipated. With growth comes pain and problems. This is the case in any business...I have been there! We just need to have faith and patience during this challenging time! Hopefully everything will be back to normal during the course of next week. Pete is confident that everything os on track! I will keep you all updated as I get info from him๐๐ผ
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21:05
Anton van der Merwe
I pray for you Cheri
21:05
Logmein
Please note, this is a private MTI Technical Group that we established to allow new signups to find fairly quick answers during signup and funding period.
This group is not trying to deviate from the MTI support group who is still your go too.
21:06
Anita Nortje
I just copied this message from another site. Don't kill the messenger
21:07
Roman
wich site anita ?
21:07
Johan Visagie
Cheri can management please issue a letter on MTI letterhead about everything and let somebody sign it so we can give it to members. Make it official communication.
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tjaart luus
Hey, how can you add someone on the group via invite link
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21:10
Marra-Madam
Also would like to know.
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21:12
Logmein
Read these last three paragraphs of the notification carefully and make sure you understand what it says.
Since that mail was received the management team have been following protocols as laid out in the email, this includes working with the technical and broker teams.
As it stands today the technical team is back on track and actively assisting us. We have provided the requested documents to the broker to establish our ownership of the account at this stage. This is a lengthy process. Unfortunately, being a weekend, we cannot expect further communication from the broker until Monday.
During this difficult transition, we appreciate the understanding of the majority of MTIโs loyal members. We ask that there is no speculation or rumours spread, and we will share the facts as we get them.
Kind regards
MTI Management
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21:13
Marra-Madam
Thank you
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21:16
George Rex
Just a question why would any person in his right mind leave the country if his clients (us) is in a need of his attention. And what business would mti have else where if it is a internet based company.
21:17
Willem Nieuwoudt
I need to know is our peopled
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21:18
Jaco Botha EC
Agreed.
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21:23
Willem Nieuwoudt
I want make an appointment with you next week at head office
You are ignoring my message
I want to know where is my downline money. U need to start answeting or i will take this furthet
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21:26
George Rex
If this statment should be believed. Then the team leader video of a zoom call was also untrue information. And aparently they knew of Johann's disappearance prior of this so caled meeting. So it is true that we have n mielie in die hol
21:27
Was just too late on the exit
21:27
Lehane Matthysen
I thought it was just me seeing that, I was still reading and the next minute poof... Gone
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21:27
George Rex
Bullshit software.
21:27
Niel Kasselman
Me too. Message just disappeared
21:28
Carel Hugo
Me too. Why?
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21:29
Crypto Mark
Please the message been deleted won't help situations rather it will worsen situations... How can you delete post and expext people to be confident ๐คฆโโ
21:29
Niel Kasselman
The message which disappeared implicated Cheri and all the different companies as fraudulent
21:29
George Rex
Hello Kipi
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21:31
George Rex
I recon we should go for a braai at johanns house and suprise him
21:32
Dean Mills
Guys... please catch a wakeup... It's over. I really feel for people that sent all their BTC / money to MTI
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21:33
Niel Kasselman
I just got the deleted message as a private message.
21:33
George Rex
The sad part is what mti dit was not inpossible it is very possible to make those returns and those return was small. And that is sad.
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21:35
Niel Kasselman
If MTI just collapsed, I just lost all my savings.
21:35
Prouds People
All things depends on protocol to make up all people account
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21:36
Bert G v Pittius
Please share with us...
21:38
Derick Botha
I suggest that the group change to admin post only.
And that admins share relevant information so that we do not sink the group with fear, anger and frustration.
It will be to the benefit of us all.
21:38
Jason G
Please private message me that message you received.
21:38
Prouds People
I agree
21:38
Michiel De Koker
Please share
21:39
Nortje
Those are exchanges not wallets
21:40
Bert G v Pittius
Thank you....
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21:46
Greg D
So, do you suggest we donโt ask questions? People have money invested and should be able to respond and ask questions and receive answers with complete transparency. I donโt suggest negative comments, but everyone should be able to question
21:46
Danie Scholtz
Hi Cheri. Thank you for the updates. We pray that Johan will be safe and okay. As mention earlier in a message. To many voices. We are waiting patiently for feedback from you and the corporate team. Our thoughts is with you. Blessings
21:47
Jay
Completely gree with you Danie
21:48
Willem Nieuwoudt
You don't answer my question for a visit. I will just popped up and hope you answers....
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21:53
George Rex
Admin is gona be crazy busy
21:53
J_Crypto19
We can jump up and down all we want,but are not gonna hv a concrete answer on where Johan is and the way forward latest Monday.
For now, it's like figuring out where God is in the Sky. You'll only know the day he shows up..
21:53
George Rex
Delete delete delete.
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21:54
Stephen
Cheri confirmed they do not have access to the btc att the moment did you not read her msg
21:54
tjaart luus
Where is the Google message just disappeared eish lol
21:55
Prouds People
Whatโs going on, two admin in this group are in different
21:55
Dean Mills
We would like to get some proof on this. I HIGHLY doubt it's the truth
21:55
George Rex
Yeah right we will then talk again monday this time.
21:56
Mohamed Saathitheen
Yes Please
21:56
Stephen
She said the following regarding the access to the btc
21:56
Carel Hugo
As long as there is 1. btc with 2. a broker and 3. a b-plan to get it out then we can relax. But seems no answer for 1, 2 or 3 now? Hope 1,2,3 is in place.
21:57
Darrin Hitchens Other
Never thought of that ...
21:58
Prouds People
Try several times itโs will open
21:59
George Rex
Boet you are missing out sombody just flushed the toilet and left a floater
22:02
Dean Mills
Why do you still want to log in? There's nothing to do in the "backoffice"
22:04
Absolutely nothing... we must accept the loss, that's all we can do
22:04
George Rex
Jip but can have some fun
22:04
Dean Mills
Good idea๐
22:04
Logmein
Read these last three paragraphs of the notification carefully and make sure you understand what it says.
Since that mail was received the management team have been following protocols as laid out in the email, this includes working with the technical and broker teams.
As it stands today the technical team is back on track and actively assisting us. We have provided the requested documents to the broker to establish our ownership of the account at this stage. This is a lengthy process. Unfortunately, being a weekend, we cannot expect further communication from the broker until Monday.
During this difficult transition, we appreciate the understanding of the majority of MTIโs loyal members. We ask that there is no speculation or rumours spread, and we will share the facts as we get them.
Kind regards
MTI Management
22:05
Gareth Ellis
More concerning is Johan goin missing
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Taha Albayati
Is there any call meeting coming soon to understand whatโs happened?
22:09
White lover ๐ช
๐๐ค
22:13
Anthony Ericson
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22:16
Carel Hugo
The 14th on Monday Johan dissapeared and the only one with access to the broker but we were assured today all will be paid by tommorrow night?? Why not be honest and open rather? Call a spade a spade. Anyway it will not help at all if ask this questions.
22:17
Chanelle Hermans
I managed to login and take screenshot of my dashboard
22:17
tjaart luus
Have you noticed that there was no trading results for the 18th December?
22:17
Jacques Joubert
Yes and I did asked for it as well
22:20
Marius Bosman
agreed they not honest if johan really disappeared on the 14th why only tell us now and why making promises on withdraws if they no it won't happen, they can only get hold of brokers on monday because it is weekend but they had time the whole week
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22:22
sinethemba
What systems did MTI have in place for Johann not to be able to steal our bitcoins? Guys this is Bullshit, there is no company where one person can have access to over R1 billion rand worth of bitcoins. We are not dumb
22:22
Helen
He goes missing Monday and they only tell us today. ๐ค
22:23
Ronelle Backhouse
Gelukkig moet ons almal eendag voor die Vader staan en verduidelik.
22:23
Stephen
You right in this case it's 8 billion worth...
22:24
Helen
So brutally true!!
22:25
Ronelle Backhouse
Wat kan hulle se hulle is ook gevang vir suckers
22:25
Carel Hugo
Now i understand why the corporate call guys looked so stressed this week.
22:25
Stephen
I didn't say there were any or weren't any I just said this is btc anything is possible
22:26
Helen
Totally with. Just saw a message pop up regarding the question from Sinethemba and I saw what was messaged but immediately deleted.
22:28
The admin people vanished and wonโt answer any questions.
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22:28
Cheri
Stop these lies
22:29
I was here answering questions earlier and the telegram channel was updated with the official response.
22:29
Helen
Well thereโs people asking questions and they donโt seem to get answers. Plus messages are being deleted...
22:29
Mohamed Saathitheen
Please make admin only post...
22:29
Logmein
We can't keep on speculating. The notice given is clear and brings hope.
Read these last three paragraphs of the notification carefully and make sure you understand what it says.
Since that mail was received the management team have been following protocols as laid out in the email, this includes working with the technical and broker teams.
As it stands today the technical team is back on track and actively assisting us. We have provided the requested documents to the broker to establish our ownership of the account at this stage. This is a lengthy process. Unfortunately, being a weekend, we cannot expect further communication from the broker until Monday.
During this difficult transition, we appreciate the understanding of the majority of MTIโs loyal members. We ask that there is no speculation or rumours spread, and we will share the facts as we get them.
Kind regards
MTI Management
22:30
Helen
Between two of my messages two were deleted by other people who posted comments
22:30
Tevin Carregher
Will we ever get our money back
22:30
Mohamed Saathitheen
Can't answer same Question again again.. here we have more then 1000 member
22:30
Cheri
Read the message. We are awaiting feedback from the broker
22:31
Kartik Behera
My senior Liz Malton vanished not giving reply
22:31
Tevin Carregher
Ma"am it's been 5 days now my withdrawal has been pending
22:31
Teresa Thomas
This is terrible
22:31
Bogosi Mabuse
Guys calm down
22:31
Tevin Carregher
I'm very concerned right now
22:32
Heilbreght Ford
I been waiting 13days for my withdrawel
22:32
Cheri
We can't keep on speculating. The notice given is clear and brings hope.
Read these last three paragraphs of the notification carefully and make sure you understand what it says.
Since that mail was received the management team have been following protocols as laid out in the email, this includes working with the technical and broker teams.
As it stands today the technical team is back on track and actively assisting us. We have provided the requested documents to the broker to establish our ownership of the account at this stage. This is a lengthy process. Unfortunately, being a weekend, we cannot expect further communication from the broker until Monday.
During this difficult transition, we appreciate the understanding of the majority of MTIโs loyal members. We ask that there is no speculation or rumours spread, and we will share the facts as we get them.
Kind regards
MTI Management
22:32
Anita Nortje
Where are the other directors? Why do we not hear from them to put us all at rest
22:33
Tevin Carregher
You not answering my question ma"am, please let's be civil
22:33
Mohamed Saathitheen
@Logmeun1 Cheri , Please put this as pin Message. So everyone can see
22:34
tjaart luus
Have you noticed that there was no trading results for the 18th December? Cheri, feedback on this please
22:34
Cheri
What would you like them to say? All information we have has been shared
22:34
Kartik Behera
Please broker name
22:34
Cheri
Didn't get the trade report in time
22:35
Tevin Carregher
Please
22:35
Cheri
I will not make statements i cannot back up 100%
22:36
Matthys Viljoen
I think everybody just wants to know that our btc is safe,i will understand if it will take a week or so to make a withdraw but we want to know its safe.
22:36
Ibrahim Fathy
Cheri I would like to thank you for your answer to people in this situation and that is mean that you are the same like ever member here and also waiting new updates to inform all
For ALL TEAM Please keep call till Monday and we will say our speech will not solve anything
22:36
Aswini Dash
Any updates NEWS about CEO
22:36
AL
Agree there. Assurance is needed, with proper proof
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22:36
Helen
What does that mean, you didnโt get the trade report on time???
22:37
Cheri
Exactly what I said. The trade report from the broker was not sent in time for the binary run.
22:37
Mohamed Saathitheen
Yes. That is what we need to know
22:37
Matthys Viljoen
And most of all we want news on Johann
22:37
Tevin Carregher
So basically our money is gone
22:37
Anita Nortje
You keep saying the same thing. People are panicking big time. Now is the time for the captains to speak to the members. So many stories, all negative. Just give us some good news from someone else's mouth.
22:37
Roxanne Ford
What I have been reading tonight is very disturbing and upsetting.
22:38
tjaart luus
Go look YouTube video mirror trading international ceo Johan steynberg missing from south africa
22:38
Cheri
Johanns wife went to police station to open a missing persons report. She's been told to go to the provincial offices. She'll update us.
22:38
Bogosi Mabuse
It would be comforting if some people started receiving their payouts
22:39
Mohamed Saathitheen
All of us
22:39
Cheri
I can't say that either. But I will not promise anything until I see payments being made
22:39
Matthys Viljoen
Thanx Cheri,please let us know if you get any news,we pray for his family
22:39
Cheri
Because I don't have more information. How can I give you news that I am not sure of?
I won't do that.
22:40
We will keep everyone informed if anything comes to light.
22:40
Tevin Carregher
And when might that happen
22:41
sinethemba
We sympathize with Johanns family regarding his disappearance. But it's actually shouldn't be our problem. There should have been bullets proof systems which should firstly guard against anyone stealing our bitcoins including Johann and secondly, that should anything happen to any management of MTI the business shouldn't have been affected. Now Johanns disappearance is made to be our problem.
22:41
Roxanne Ford
Its strange that people have been waiting for so long for their withdrawals and now all of a sudden Johan goes missing.
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22:42
Jaco Botha EC
Thank you.
22:42
Cheri
3000 people were paid on Monday the 13th
22:42
MTI technical department was Johann and his development team only.
22:43
We've managed to get in touch with the server team.
We await feedback on the broker.
22:43
Anita Nortje
And that yesterday's trading was not given. This is the first time this has happened and I have been with Mti for 7 months now. Always available and in your back office the following morning. Now it wasn't received!!!!
22:44
Shaun Eagle
I now wash my hands
If MTI was a scam yah neh u GUYS r very smart
How can u scam us without even noticing that our btc was going down the drain
Yhooo my 100 k
22:44
Cheri
The trading was done. It was just not uploaded yet.
22:44
Tevin Carregher
And then the rest of us
22:44
J_Crypto19
Cheri, if 3000 people were paid on Monday 13th, when were they approved and by whom?
22:44
๐ซ๐จ๐น๐ฎ๐ฏ๐จ๐ด ๐ฃ
I have a problem.
22:45
Roxanne Ford
I totally agree. What about the people who put their all and only money in here and are counting on it. It shouldnt be our problem if Johan is missing, our money is our business and thats that...we shouldnt have to wait for our money this way or stress like this.
22:45
Matthys Viljoen
I just think MTI has bigger problems at the moment than to send a trading report
22:45
Cheri
By Johann. READ the message. He did 500 payments. Checked them. Then did 2500. Then he was going to rest and then do the remaining ones. Then everyone lost contact with him 2am Tuesday CAT.
22:46
Anita Nortje
I am just saying everything is suddenly going wrong. That's my point.
22:46
Cheri
Johann has always been the heart and soul of this company.
22:47
Cheri
Not really. It has been hell since the 26th of October 202o
22:47
Anita Nortje
It's not only about yesterday's trade
22:47
Matthys Viljoen
I agree im just trying to give mti the benifit
22:47
J_Crypto19
OK.. Did he travel alone to wherever he went for the business trip?
22:47
Kartik Behera
If mti will not return Btc to all it will be the big pre planning scam in the world
22:47
Chanelle Hermans
How is his wife and child coping?
22:47
Cheri
Yes his wife, child and family are still here
22:48
Kartik just stop. We don't know that.
22:48
Ali pasha
Very easy to get flight records if he every went to the airport.
The question is why MTI is having issues releasing money?
Many ppl here have been waiting weeks only to get rude replies which is not the best way to handle things.
I keep hearing the leaders here say, โtheir legal team โbut who is the legal team?
Why doesnโt the legal team handle the payments?
22:48
Roman
wich broker was mti using recently ?
22:48
J_Crypto19
But why would he travel to other country alone, in this case...
22:49
Ali pasha
What lawyer?
22:49
Cheri
In what world does a legal team handle payments? MTI Technical qas headed by Johann, he wrote the mti program. He did payments.
22:49
Kartik Behera
Because my sponsor Liz malton did not reply my question she is your direct it is not good manner
22:49
Marcos Caleb Schroeckenthaler
Let us all pray for Johann. That should be our chief concern. Not our money. May God protect him from any evil. Heโs a good man.
22:49
Cheri
I don't think it was purposely planned that way, his wife still works.
22:50
No she is not my direct actually.
22:50
Ali pasha
His name canโt be found in flight manifest.
Take 15 mins to to do an environmental scan. Airport story doesnโt add up. MTI canโt even say where he was going๐ฅฑ
22:50
Kartik Behera
She told me
22:51
Cheri
We have no more information than you and all the same questions.
We are not jumping to conclusions.
We are focussed on the broker.
22:51
Champ Perry
So will trade continue on Monday
22:51
Helen
Cheri forgive me but what you just stated sounds suspicious ๐คจ all the other times you got the report on time but not this week? Really? Something has been off for quite sometime now. And if anything is legit here regarding MTI....and existence of peoples Bitcoins and money.... Well then I owe you and apology!
22:51
Ali pasha
If a banks CEO dies the clients donโt worry about their money.
This a company.
22:51
Johan
Julle.... ons is genaaaaai! Ma foken hard! Johan poes steyn het sy tyd gekies om te hardloop!
22:51
Budy Lim
Just incase something really happen, how we can get our btc back?
22:51
Champ Perry
So will the broker agree to your terms
22:52
Crypto Mark
There's more to this guys. Everyone should pray that MTI pays out people's btc and I strongly advice that when you get your btc out anytime if possible don't put it back again not even in any other platform at list for 3 months before thinking of what to do next. My prayer is that they pay investors btc out when they request for withdrawals. The scam and stories is just not appealing as I've been with company and when things is about to pack up stupid stories starts coming up just as this. This time is extremely critical and could send many to their graves untimely.
22:52
Anita Nortje
He said on many zoom meetings that if something happens to him, there is a backup plan so Mti will still continue. Members mustn't worry.
22:52
Cheri
When did I say we always got it on time?
I didn't say that?
I've never handled the trade report. That was done by Johann. The broker uploads it automatically.
The binary run was done before they uploaded it.
22:52
Marcos Caleb Schroeckenthaler
I have money in there too. My whole family does. Iโm worried about Johann right now.
22:53
Yunis Lattuf
In this situation is when we know whois the truth leader. Thanks Cher to keep us informed
22:53
Cheri
We are waiting for them
22:53
Marcos Caleb Schroeckenthaler
Your advice will not go heeded. I love platforms. Pray for Johann, that should be our concern right now.
22:54
Tevin Carregher
Is there binary this week?
22:54
Cheri
Let me say I hate that we are in this position. I cannot explain what goes through my mind. It's been hell
22:54
Crypto Mark
Guys take screenshots. Take screenshots. Take screenshots. I'm just talking and advising from past experience with other companies. That's your only evidence that you have an investment with MTI.
22:54
Ali pasha
Informing and acting are two very dif things.
22:54
Cheri
It was done today
22:54
Ali pasha
Very true! The pool numbers donโt add up.
22:55
Carlos A Pรฉrez Haeussler
the binary was done without yesterdays trade
22:55
Popcorn Time
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22:55
Tevin Carregher
So why can't we get our withdrawals?
22:55
Jaco Botha EC
Strongs
22:55
Champ Perry
So is there hope for us?
And will trade continue next Monday?
22:56
Cheri
I said at night he did over 2000 that morning and we found the withdrawal report wasn't 100% correcr when we checked it against the escalation list. So server team fixed it.
Then that night he did 500 and a other 2500
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22:56
Cheri
Can you please read the messages above
22:56
Tevin Carregher
It's crazy miss Cheri for us not to get our hands on our funds
22:56
Nicola Grace
The danger here
@Cheri is that the excuses for not giving people their bitcoin are mounting. The last I heard from you is that the FSCA are lying and criminal charges have not been filed. Is that still true? We want people paid by Sunday as promised so this does not escalate to a class action against MTI as those of us who believe in MTI would be adversely effected. Management needs to step up and manage this.
22:57
Cheri
Yes for all of us. We have to wait to hear from the broker
22:57
Crypto Mark
How about you pray for those who have their life savings in here. And if they're not able to get it out they can't eat, playbills, attend to medical situation... Some will even be physically paralyzed why not pray for them as well and not just put your concentration on the CEO alone everyone is important
22:57
Cheri
Stop it this is a blatant lie
22:57
Tevin Carregher
I'm talking about what has been pending
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22:57
Yunis Lattuf
Thatโs what we need to do. Thanks Cheri
22:57
Cheri
If the broker releases the funds yes
22:57
Popcorn Time
Its true
22:57
Diran Pillay
Agreed
22:57
Tevin Carregher
But you see unsure though
22:58
Tevin Carregher
Is there a possibility for any of that to happen?
22:58
Mario (Moerlank) (LV-27)
Given the current situation I am personally concerned for Johann and his family.
I totally understand everyoneโs frustration and perhaps questioning thoughts as to what is actually going on.
Lets rather wait for an official responses from MTI corporate and their leadership.
Personally I am still confident that MTI will continue as a going concern, Johann has previously on many occasions indicated that there is a contingency plan in the event of something happening to him.
Can I please ask everyone in this group to remain calm until such a time as we have definitive facts.
From: Ian Simons
22:58
Cheri
How do you suggest we manage this? Do you have inroads to the broker that can help? Do you know where Johann is? Because if I had these answers this would all be really simple.
22:59
Chanelle Hermans
Has a case been opened with the FSCA?
22:59
Just would like clarity on that
23:00
Niel Kasselman
Are you serious? If these are your thoughts then you don't belong in MTI.
23:00
Ali pasha
Exactly! The concern should be for the members whoโs lives are put on hold because of this.
Money in and out when we needed is what weโve been told.
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23:00
Cheri
Yes and we are all in that boat. We have to wait for the broker.
23:00
Ria Kasselman
Cheri I hope that when all is said and done and resolved you will ban all this negative people from MTI... They have no place in this business
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Ali pasha
Why would the broker say no?
Who is the broker?
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23:01
Mads
Please spend the link to join this group
23:01
Cheri
I can understand the frustration. I just think the abuse is not productive.
23:01
Anita Nortje
Are you kidding?
23:02
Cheri
They didn't say no. They said they'll do the withdrawal. We are awaiting that. Unless btc is paid out there is nothing we can do.
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23:03
Carlos A Pรฉrez Haeussler
What do the traders say?
23:03
White lover ๐ช
It is inconceivable that the management of the company would not know exactly where Johan is located
Cheri
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23:03
Chanelle Hermans
Please please clarify this?
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23:03
Hans
@Cheri... mti always said our bitcoin is safe. Is there really not a single person in the company other than Johan to have access to this "safe" bitcoin? Cheri i can only imagine under what pressure you are, and yet you still answer questions here. That we appreciate. But to me... i for the life of me can not understand that after all the live videos yourself and Johan made where we were told our bitcoin will always be safe...YET now at this stage you imply that " if we have access to the broker" it will be safe. So if you do not have access all is lost? Is that what youre saying? Not trying to badger you...i am just very worried.
23:03
Carlos A Pรฉrez Haeussler
they must be in control of the trading account
23:03
Cheri
Not even his wife or family knows
23:04
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sorry but the people just worried about their money
23:04
Anita Nortje
Cheri it's not abuse it's about people loosing everything and we a very worried not just for ourselves but what has happened to Johann.
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23:05
Coach CJ @NewDestinyWealthBuilders
From a place of extreme concern for Johan and for our members, has it been considered just liquidating everyones BTC, returning it to them, getting Johan home safe and them beginning MTI again down the road.... That would give MTI a clean slate and a fresh start and it would give the members their btc and the power to decide whether to rejoin MTI in the future.
23:05
White lover ๐ช
He could be kidnapped
Cheri
23:05
Cheri
Johann showed live trades to the FSCA i was physically there. I SAW it.
Johann himself said that the only way MTI would close down is when he decided it and then everyone would get they btc out.
He's quoted many times on this.
I trust Johann.
I don't have answers for the current situation.
I have just as many questions.
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23:06
Cheri
I don't think so. No ransom requests
23:06
Coach CJ @NewDestinyWealthBuilders
Thank you Cheri!
23:06
Nicola Grace
My concer Cheti is panic is escalating. So if it wad my company I"d be on video showing proof of withdrawals that have been done. Othereise from our perspective its just stories we have no way of verifying.
That Johan has gone missing is absolutely tragic. I totally believe in his heart but you have to see it from our perpective that one story after another of why we cant get our funds out looks like any other company who went rogue.
I feel thete is more going on behind the scenes in favour of protecting the members btc but im just saying it doesnt look like that. And we want to stop this mass panic so members dont go off and do something stupid.
23:06
Crypto Mark
๐๐พ... Simple we said
23:07
Cheri
I understand that. My entire family is all in into MTI.
23:07
Ali pasha
Very simple
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23:07
Ali pasha
Where is his family?
Who went to his home?
Find the wife and kids he will be around.
He did not leave South Africa
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23:08
Matthys Viljoen
Where did you get this info
23:08
Cheri
If ibhaf more info i would give it... fact is I don't. And I hate this situation. I cannot change it.
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23:08
Cheri
You need to stop.
Johann did a live Q and A where it was quite clear he is not in SA.
23:08
Kobus Pretorius
In the meantime we need an official statement from Ulrich Rouxโs law firm regarding the FSCAโs case against MTI.
The IRS is also looking for Johann
23:09
Cheri
Great I hope they find him
23:09
White lover ๐ช
Currently, what is the status of the management or the team, has it stopped trading in MTI or not
Cheri
23:09
Kobus Pretorius
Itโs not good that he is a wanted man
23:09
The smart Investor
Cheri we trust you and johann
23:09
Royal ยฎ๏ธ
Worth Listening
23:09
Royal ยฎ๏ธ
Nana Akoto 19.12.2020 22:47:35
23:09
Nicola Grace
You font know that @Ali pasha airlines dont give out flight records to lay people. I hope he is out of SA and safe and out of the clutches of the FSCA.
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23:10
Helen
Totally with you! It is worrisome that only one person had the access.
This is starting to sound like the story of Dr Ruja (OneCoin) who also went missing just before things got heated... her brother took the fall and her whereabouts is still unknown.
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23:11
Cheri
Look guys, we are also struggling with this. It is hard not to jump to conclusions.
Right now we are simply waiting on the broker. All that matters is members getting their btc and finding Johann.
23:12
Matthys Viljoen
100%
23:12
Yunis Lattuf
Agreed!!!
23:12
Helen
Really after 72 hrs ?Johan disappeared Monday and only today we find out????
23:13
Cheri
His wife made that call. And no one was about to tell her in these circumstances what to do. The woman and her child are going through hell.
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23:14
Cheri
And we only knew there was a problem Tuesday afternoon after 2;30pm
23:14
Anita Nortje
Nothing we can do now but wait till Monday. Please let everything work out for all. This will be a major catastrophe if we all loose everything and Johann is not found. Good night all hope you will sleep alright.
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23:14
Mads
Can someone please incite me on my second phone number
0604951093
23:15
Yang Xiong
This video is over a year old. What are you trying to do here?
23:16
Vee
U all jumping on Cheri and she is not the CEO...Cheriis still here. So stop shooting her
.. as terrified as i am of losing my pension i took the risk it was my choice...how long do these platforms generally last for anyway. Surely not a lifetime, i havent seen any that do... but i pray all goes well and Johan is ok aswell as our btc. X
23:17
Karl Van Der Walt
Cheri why is the BTC with a broker over the weekend, when trading doesn't occur over a weekend?
23:17
Thor Odinson
Well said. Let's pray for everyone involved and keep positive.
23:17
Cheri
It stays with the broker always
23:18
Robin
Praying for you Cheri
23:18
White lover ๐ช
Unfortunately, I am a company like the mti that does not have a substitute for Johan or an associate signifying work instead of it
23:19
Eddie Brown
Amen.... speculating is of no consequence...
MTI will divulge...
Please we are all wanting answers....
Monday as corporate mentioned...
We pray Johann is found fit & healthy...
And MTI overcomes these neferious individuals too...
Have faith ladies & gentlemen....
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23:20
Karl Van Der Walt
Uhm no, there's reference to cold storage Firstly. Secondly, are you saying the payments (up until a few weeks ago) came from a broker account and not MTI?
23:20
Popcorn Time
Good question. Isn't a small amount of total BTC pool traded at the broker and rest in cold storage or did I miss something?
23:21
Cheri
The withdrawals got relayed to Johann and he then remitted it.
23:22
Teresa Thomas
This is the wrong kinda test.
23:22
White lover ๐ช
Cheri Who is the likely mean in your opinion
23:22
Cheri
Sorry I don't understand
23:23
Jessica
Cheri thank yiu for all your inputs assistance tonight. I think in all fairness to you now,.it is time for you to sign off and go and get some well deserved rest. The questions will still be here tomorrow and the answers will all still be the same. We will know more in this coming week once the submitted documents have been approved and the management team kicks in to action. For now I think we all need to take a break.
23:23
Hans
Good luck Cheri. You having a tough time here. I think people just need you to say all will be good. Surely a company of your size cannot rely on just one man? Surely that was sorted and discussed.... as they also said. So why are you worried now Cheri? If it is what they promised it should all be good right?
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23:23
White lover ๐ช
Who is the mediating person
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23:24
Karl Van Der Walt
But the actual transfer came from a broker account/wallet and not an MTI wallet?
23:27
Jessica
Good night Cheri. Get some rest.
23:27
White lover ๐ช
Cheri God willing, all things are fine, and the mti will return as it was in the past, my love for you โฅ
23:28
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A message of love and gratitude to Johan for preserving it from every harm or bad deed. I hope everyone will repeat this message in all the companyโs acrobatics to support him and stand beside Johan to support him at this time, God willing, things will be done in the best condition after the site returns in its best condition from the previous one. God willing, Monday will be the break Between everything that happens, and we, as the Arab team, stand by the man who changed the greater part of our lives for the better. I hope God will protect him from all harm with love โค๏ธ
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23:32
Crypto Mark
May God protect all investors across the world. cos this is a critical moment as there is no assurance on things. Tracing my past experiences, I advice that everyone should see things as life experiences. Sometimes we wine and sometimes we lose.
23:34
Helen
For some people losses are not an option!!!
23:34
Stephen
What is this?
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Crypto Mark
You're right but what if there's nothing to do if nothing changes and the site goes off the web...
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Crypto Mark
You have to think about that as well
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23:40
Enslin Nortje
Roshlin....please
23:41
Roman
under maintinance
23:41
Kamoetso Tevia
Guys stop asking silly questions this message alone should be enough of an answer if you read it. So meaning the funds will ne transfered from the broker to mti and mti will do the withdrawals for us.
23:41
Victor Castles
Yet, I saw a binary allocation on my back office.....
23:43
Popcorn Time
Dont get your hopes up. Hopefully no one put their life savings in MTI
23:43
Helen
Well thereโs always something you can do if you have a will. I think there are people who have been gathering for quite some time now evidence on these โscammersโ if it is true that they have scammed people out of there money .... they can be hunted down... by Interpol for starters... these scammers can be classified as criminals.
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Karl Van Der Walt
A broker doesn't act as storage. Either all the BTC is with the broker at the moment, as you claim, and in which case I would venture they trade with over the weekends, or its elsewhere, like the cold storage story that we qwere fed. Either way, todays statements OR previous statements made by you and MTI management were false.
1. A portion of BTC is traded, the balance is in cold storage. If true, your statements today are false.
2. All BTC is traded/held with the broker. If true, previous statements are false.
Which is it?
23:46
J_Crypto19
Good positive message...
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Kamoetso Tevia
If the broker dont have the btc how wil the broker do the trading for mti. ๐คฆโโ ofcourse they have the funds in cold storage .Only if withdrawals are requested by members do the broker release the required btc to mti and trade with the left over. If im correct this is the way its done.
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Kamoetso Tevia
Thats what the fsca told the public. But i can assure you nobody but a few people know who the broker is. Some guy on this group asked cheri a thousand times who the broker is. She ignored this which is correct .cause if she did say all members will harash the broker to the core and the broker will ultimatly complain to mti.
23:54
Enought said im of to bed have a great night
23:57
Erada
Yes that's true
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LaTonya Petrie-Porter
thank you1
00:16
Erada
How can we file a lawsuit if it turns out that the company does not own Bitcoin? Especially most of us who are not from South Africa, we should think about this seriously
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B Grant
None of this makes sense 1. Members were told all payments would be made by today 20th December. 2. Johann went missing on Monday/Tuesday - MTI had time to take things over with the broker to ensure payments are made today. 3. Johann was originally planned to work with the broker on Sunday as per corporate messages 20th December so the broker is open on sundays. 4. Why would Johann travel overseas at a time of company crises for business ?
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Roman
to spent his 22k btc
00:38
AC
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00:38
sorry , no disrespect meant that is just kak funny
00:39
F I
Layer Cake (2004)
Eddie Temple: England. Typical. Even drug dealers don't work weekends.
00:39
Roman
well humor is the best you can do in these situation i guess all panic wont change anything just make you loose more hair